
Dive into an uplifting and soul-stirring conversation with Lucas Kitchen and Shawn Lazar as they explore the profound intersection of mental health and spiritual hope. In this engaging episode, they masterfully reframe the struggle of depression through the lens of storytelling, moving away from "tragic" narratives to embrace the "comedy" of a life anchored in faith and future resurrection. With a blend of pastoral wisdom and practical advice—covering everything from the benefits of biblical meditation and physical exercise to the power of communal inclusion—Lucas and Shawn offer a refreshing, stigma-free dialogue that treats human ailments with deep empathy and lighthearted wit. Whether you are seeking a "breakthrough" light in a dark night of the soul or simply want to be encouraged by a higher purpose, this podcast is a must-listen journey toward rediscovering your role as a victor in an incredible, unfolding story.

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Lucas Kitchen writes Christian fiction and nonfiction. He has written over twenty-five books, from Bible teaching, like Eternal Life and Salvation and Discipleship, to Christian sci-fi and fantasy, like Missionary To Mars and Isolation. He is the director of Free Grace International and the teaching pastor of The Pines Church in Longview, Texas. He hosts the More To The Story podcast, and his videos about Jesus and the faith have been viewed about 3.5 million times across platforms. He lives in Texas with his wife, four kids, and his scratch-addicted cats.
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